Drake can’t catch a break. The international hip-hop star has made millions of dollars for producing huge hit records. Fans love to dance to his music, but very few people like to admit that they listen to Drizzy. And when they do, it’s normally backed up by a joke like how Katy Perry did.

In a recent interview with the Breakfast Club, Perry speaks about how Drake is her secret pleasure to listen too. She goes to call Drake her “secret diary,” but eventually alludes to him being soft.

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